David Duke on the Radio
PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT OF DAVID
DUKE'S APPEARANCE ON BOSTON RADIO SHOW
David Brudnoy Show,
Transcript prepared by PRA.
DAVID BRUDNOY, HOST: Chip Berlet was with my colleague John Keller earlier this evening. Mr. Berlet is an analyst with Political Research Associates. He has called and he joins us now. Chip, good evening. You're on with Mr. Duke.
CHIP BERLET: Good morning.
BRUDNOY: Good morning, I'm sorry, Chip go ahead.
BERLET: Well, I spent the last couple of days looking at your recent speeches, Mr. Duke, including a July 23rd one, 1988 one up in the state of Washington Populist Party nominating convention and I'd just like to run a couple of your quotes there and see if you still agree with them.
DAVID DUKE: OK.
BERLET: I certainly understand that you might change your views but in that speech you said that the single most important issue facing America was the Zionist control of the American media and that Zionists control our media and they try to break down our heritage. I wonder if you could explain that.
DUKE: Well, I think there is a lot of Zionist influence in media and I think it's one of the key issues in our...I wouldn't say it was the key issue in America, but I think it is a key issue in terms of our foreign policy. BERLET: Yeah, and you followed up that statement by saying that you did know one Jew, Alfred Lillianthal, who you thought was OK, but that Judaism was a vile faith. Your quote--
DUKE: No, I didn't say that. And I--
BERLET: You did. I have the tape right here. I'll play it for you.
BERLET: You said Judaism is a vile faith, there are many horrible things in the Talmud. I'll play the tape right now. I've got it.
DUKE: Well, I don't know where that was from or what year or what time.
BERLET: It was 1988, July 23rd.
DUKE: Well, OK, well, you can say that.
BERLET: Populist Party. I can say it. You want to hear it? I'll play it right now for you.
DUKE: Well, I don't know, I know, but I need to hear the whole context to see it-- BRUDNOY: Well, let's hear the sentence that applies--
DUKE: Yeah, let's hear that.
BRUDNOY: --Chip if you happen to have it--
DUKE: Let me hear that.
BRUDNOY: --geared up.
DUKE: Let me hear that where you say I, it was a vile, vile faith.
BERLET: Well, I've got a, it will take me a second to find that exact quote, I've got one where you say that God created different races and God separated them and that was a natural law. I can play that right now; it's cued up.
BRUDNOY: Go ahead.
DUKE ON TAPE: There's no question that God created different races on this planet. There's also no question that God created those races and he separated those races. [That's right.] The white races were European, the yellow races were Asian and the Blacks, of course, were African. Now man has a tendency to come along and say, God's law doesn't really make, isn't very important. This natural law that God created isn't very vital. Well, I think that it is. I'm glad that God created different races. I think it offers greater possibilities for mankind and I want my grandkids and greatgrandkids to look something like myself [Yes] and the people that came before me. [Amen] And I'm proud of that fact. [Applause]
BRUDNOY: Chip, I, we'll have to turn that down because it's so hard to hear--
DUKE: Oh, I could hear it--
DUKE: --And I don't see anything--God did create different races and he did separate them by continent. I don't see anything that was improper or anything that I'd have to repudiate from that statement because I think it's absolutely correct.
BERLET: Yeah, but in the context of your former views, then it does tend to suggest that, you have in the past suggested that the basic culture of America is European and that if that's lost then we will lose America.
DUKE: Oh, I believe that. And I've never denied that. I think the basic culture of this country is European and Christian and I think if we lose that, we lose America. Yes, I believe that a hundred percent. I stated that in my most recent race for the U.S. Senate in my television programs. I've written about that. I have no argument with that statement. Yes, I believe that. We're predominantly white, we're basically white European in terms of our culture and we're basically Christian and I endorse that. I don't think we should suppress other races, but I think that if we lose that white--ahh what's the word for it--dominance in America, with it we lose America. Yes.
BERLET: Would you like to hear the thing about, that you don't respect Judaism and it's vile.
BRUDNOY: Please. Do that part here now.
DUKE: Yeah, I'd like to hear that.
BRUDNOY: Go ahead, Chip, please.
BRUDNOY: This is right after you mentioned Mr. Lillianthal.
BRUDNOY: Go ahead.
DUKE ON TAPE: But I don't have respect for Zionism, and frankly I don't have respect for Judaism. Because it's a very vile [Yeah], anti-Christian faith, and if you're familiar with it, then you'd realize why I feel that way. It doesn't mean all Jews are that way. But I don't, I don't respect the Talmud, I think it's a very vicious and vile book and it attacks all Christians and non-Jews in the world and I--
BRUDNOY: Mr. Duke, what do you say to those remarks? Was it 1988, Chip?
BERLET: July 1988.
DUKE: I don't think that, I don't remember that at that meeting now.
BERLET: You don't?
BERLET: I do have the videotape given to me by the Populist Party.
DUKE: Well, that's, that's fine. Again, there are some certain vile quotes like that against, against Christianity and you can look up those quotes yourself in the Talmud but I wouldn't say, I don't believe that Judaism is a vile faith--
BERLET: But you did then.
DUKE: --but I think there are some, there's some elements in it that I certainly disagree with. [laughs]
BRUDNOY: No, but let's stick to the point that you did then, in July of '88--
BERLET: So you're saying that you no longer think Judaism is a vile faith.
DUKE: No, I don't think Judaism is a vile faith.
BERLET: What happened in the intervening year--
DUKE: And if it came off that way, I didn't mean to make it as the entire faith that way but I think there's, I said, I said in the speech there are aspects which are, which, which are wrong and I think, for instance there are some, some passages in the Talmud which say that Christians should be strangulated [sic] and that Christ was a bastard and Mary was a whore and that kind of thing and to me those, those aspects are very anti-Christian and very vile.
BERLET: Uh huh. And at another point, you said--
DUKE: But obviously I don't think that is the whole tradition of Judaism but certainly some of those, some of those sentiments in the Talmud.
BERLET: That's fascinating. At another point you say that the internationalists want to destroy the American middle class. They want to destroy our heritage. They know they cannot take full control of our lives unless they destroy the vitality, the seed, the spirit, the genetic treasure of this society, of our nation. What, what are you, what is the genetic treasure of our society?
DUKE: I think our heritage. I think when you talk about American--
BERLET: Who are the internationalists who are trying to destroy this seed?
DUKE: Well, I think some of the international financial concerns, for instance, some of the international, powerful corporations and that's what's so odd in this country you have a lot of them who have a lot of power in banking and other areas who are also very liberal and pro-Marxist. That to me is a dichotomy. It doesn't seem, it doesn't seem, it seems like a contradiction in terms, yet communism has flourished often where you've had more money in society than in the poorer areas. Mississippi's probably got the lowest Communists per capita of any state in the United States but there seems to be a lot of Communists in the centers like New York City and some of the major financial markets.
BRUDNOY: Anything else, Chip?
BERLET: No, I'm, I remain skeptical of his change of heart--
BERLET: --It's not Saul on the road to Damascus.
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